I don't think it's fair to compare Thailand to Vietnam in the context of this trip. The two halves of the trip were very different with the second half being purely vacation and the first half being professional leave to visit libraries and be part of a group. Apples and pomelos. Something like that. I'll take care of the Vietnam tour reflection in the next day or two, but some final, randomly-ordered thoughts on Vietnam.
It struck me in Sattahip, near the resort city of Pattaya, just how many old(er) white men there were there. White women? Not many, never alone and always with other white men or white women. The older white men? Alone or in clusters or with younger Thai women. There was something about it all that felt like viewing sexual tourism on its down time. I don't know, y'all. There is probably a lot more intelligent that can be written about the racial and sexual dynamics at play, about tourism and economics and colonialism. It just felt, well, icky to me while there. Interestingly, I didn't see this nearly as much in Chiang Mai or in Bangkok. Chiang Mai was very touristy in the city center, and in Bangkok we were probably very removed from where a lot of tourists stay.
I loved the food, but I may have liked the food in Vietnam more. Having to navigate a menu with Conrad was sometimes a challenge - he just has so little tolerance for chiles and heat (and Van has even less!!). Vietnam presented fewer such challenges, and I felt like there was more of an emphasis on fresh herbs in the Vietnamese food we encountered. Restaurant POTONG was the best meal we had all trip, though, and there wasn't a dud the day we did the walking tour. All in all, however, I could do without eating coconut, rice, bananas, curry, and shrimp for a little while!
We packed for rainy season and saw very little rain. This was driven in part by reports of flooding all around Bangkok in September. But no. One day with rain in Sattahip, two mornings in Bangkok with quick, intense showers. Chiang Mai weather was pretty idyllic, though. Maybe we were used to the heat and humidity by that point in the trip as well. Funny thing? I packed three pairs of shorts and wore one pair once.
Speaking of clothes and packing, we did pick up a few casual items in Thailand including these pants that get tied up that I bought in the hotel shop in Chiang Mai the first day and lived in in our hotel rooms after that. I should have packed a few more casual tshirts, and I was glad to go to a regular store in Pattaya (like a Target, with groceries and household goods and clothing) and buy a couple of inexpensive tops to wear all around. Buying clothes in SE Asia is a real blow to the ego, by the way. I have gained a lot of weight in recent years, I know, but putting on a tshirt at a cool souvenir shop in Chiang Mai and realizing that XXXL referred more to length than to girth was a wounding experience.
Thailand is a more developed country than Vietnam, and there was a lot about it that would be familiar to westerners visiting. Where in Vietnam there seemed to be a real prevalence of police or military guards, in Thailand there were images of the royal family all over. It was interesting to see that contrast. We talked with a few people about the royal family because our understanding comes from the British one, and that was illuminating. A lot of reverence for the current kings father, a lot of respect for the current king and hope for how his rein will continue to go, and even sorrow for the death of his eldest daughter earlier this year.
It is not a priority for us to go back to SE Asia much as J-J and Vanda would doutbless welcome us. Van was over last night, and we were showing him photos of some of the trip, and he asked which country we found more interesting. He agreed with my assessment that Vietnam was the one simply because it felt the more foreign, the more different from my surroundings here. That's not to say I didn't find Thailand uninteresting. But I also didn't find it so compelling that I think, Gosh! I want to go back. It was a good trip, a good visit, and I hope that I have shown through the blog entries that I appreciated so much. Still, there are other places I would visit for the first time or return to before I consider Thailand again.
I'll end there. One more entry to right related to the trip, and then it's time to get on to life here, work, the travel ahead for the rest of the year. Thanks for coming on the journey this far!









































